内容提要
偏爱——
张洹：我偏爱一种自然的东西，偏爱一种鲜活的东西。
艺术有用——
张洹：艺术有用，艺术它转换过来以后⋯⋯我就觉得，一个石头一个石头就从自己身体中拿走了。石头搬不完。一块石头搬走了，更大的一块又来了。这就是我自身的一个个性，就是永远有新的石头压着我。不会搬完的，而且越来越觉得那些石头越来越大，越来越沉。
艺术是一种魅力，不是深刻。——
张洹：一个人也好，一个艺术家也好，或者一个建筑师，一个作家，他做出一个东西来，它背后让人读到的，是作者的人格魅力和气质。
艺术要做“过”——
张洹：过头，它才能立得住。我也经常讲，一般说“顺者昌，逆者亡”，但是艺术来讲，是“顺者亡，逆者昌”。我跟张扬有一个对话，最后我说“大刀向我们自己头上砍过来，直到砍死为止。”
不讲道理——
张洹：我是“蛮干与智慧”。艺术这个东西没有标准，你可以思考得像一个哲学家，也可以像一个文学家，或者像一个民间艺人，路子很多种，或者去修炼。但是我的方式，想做出自己的东西，那你在这么多系统里，只能是不讲道理和蛮干。不讲道理的时候，我觉得才有可能走出系统；蛮干的时候，才有自己的声音，自己的语言。人，我相信在吵架或拼命的时候有他的本质出来的。平时都在掩着自己。讲道理就在系统内。所以我的艺术道路就是不讲道理加蛮干。
关于“好”——
张洹：我刚出国的时候，他们告诉我“好”这个词有很多说法⋯⋯我想用英文说“好”可能就是一种欧洲或者美国方式。他见到你，跟你聊聊，这什么“great”、“fantastic”、“amazing”⋯⋯什么“gorgeous”，最后到“not bad”，挺多都可以说“not bad”。
Preference—
Zhang Huan: I prefer natural things, I prefer fresh and living things.
Purposeful Art—
Zhang Huan: Purposeful art is art transformed over... it is like stones one by one are being removed from my body, but there is no end. Remove one stone and a larger one replaces it. This is a personal trait of mine, stones will forever suppress me. It will never stop, and it seems the stones become increasingly larger and deeper.
The Charm of Art is Not Profound—
Zhang Huan: Being a person, or an artist, or an architect or a writer all are good. They produce something future people can learn from, they produce personal charisma and temperament.
Art Should Be “Exaggerated”—
Zhang Huan: Only exaggerated can it hold its ground. It is said “Those who follow prosper, those who contradict perish”, but as art goes I often say “Those who contradict prosper, those to follow perish”. I had a conversation with Zhang Yang once, my last sentence was “A large knife over our heads, cuts all the way straight to death”.
Unreasonable—
Zhang Huan: I am “reckless and wise”. There is no standard in art, you can think like a philosopher, you can also be like a writer or a folk artist, the paths are many or do an apprenticeship. But my method to do my own things. One bound by so many systems, can only be reasonable and cautious. When being unreasonable, I believe, one can then stray from the system: when being reckless, one then has his or her own voice and his or her own language. I believe when people argue or work with all one's might their true-selves surfaces, which is normally buried within us. Reason lies within the system. So the path of art is “unreasonable” plus “recklessness”.
The Word “Good”—
Zhang Huan: When I first went abroad, they told me there are many ways to say “good”... I'm thinking saying “good” is an European or American idiosyncrasy. He or she sees you, you chit chat, what is this “great”, “fantastic”, ”amazing”...and “gorgeous”, and ultimately “not bad”. You can use “not bad” in most situations.
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